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Nine Questions About The Latin Mass You Were Too Embarrassed To Ask

Jeff Ostrowski · April 21, 2017

220 Father Federico Masutti Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter FSSP HIS COMING SUNDAY, Fr. Gerard Saguto, District Superior of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP), will offer the 7:00pm Mass at Saint Victor Church in Hollywood. It will be a SOLEMN HIGH MASS with sacred polyphony and Gregorian chant—a fabulous opportunity to invite friends who have never experienced the Latin Mass.

Here are nine questions your friends may ask:

(1) Is the Traditional Mass disobedient?

In 1988, Pope St. John Paul II founded the FSSP. Our name was chosen by Josef Cardinal Ratzinger, to remind everyone we are fully in union with Rome. Indeed, starting in 2007 every priest has the right to offer the Traditional Latin Mass, and bishops can no longer forbid this.

Pope Benedict XVI declared (7 July 2007): “What earlier generations held as sacred, remains sacred and great for us too, and cannot be suddenly entirely forbidden or considered harmful.”


(2) How different is it from the Ordinary Form?

When the Ordinary Form is celebrated “by the book,” the differences aren’t as drastic. But this is rare, as Cardinal Ratzinger said quite well. (Scroll to the bottom of this article to read an “addendum” with elaboration.)

For example, both forms refer to this coming Sunday (23 April) as “Quasimodo Sunday.” But very few people attending the Ordinary Form even realize that, for reasons explained by Fr. David Friel.


(3) Are my kids welcome?

I’ve never met an FSSP priest who doesn’t love children; they are particularly welcoming to large families. Sometimes priests will say “children making noise at church doesn’t bother me”—only to discover later on they weren’t telling the truth. But our FSSP priests aren’t like that; they view kids as our Church’s future.

Our evening Mass is quieter than a morning Mass, mainly because Saint Victor has the greatest cry room in the world. It’s next to the Altar, behind glass. Check out our cry room view.


(4) What if I don’t know how to participate?

Saint Victor has special hymnals—enough for everyone who comes—containing the complete Mass texts in English and Latin, alongside color pictures. That’s the best way, because some older books can be confusing.

Please read this recent testimony from a mother at Saint Victor and consider whether there’s any reason to be nervous.


(5) Will I enjoy it?

When we first attended the Traditional Latin Mass, my brothers hated it—and so did I. But our mother kept forcing us to attend, and with the passage of time we came to love it deeply.

I clearly remember one thing about that first time: the priest always kept his head down, with his eyes humbly focused on prayer and nothing else—as if he were a slave. That’s how all the FSSP priests offer Mass, because the rubrics control everything the priest does: bowing, arm placement, genuflection, when to kiss the Altar, even what to look at and when.


(6) Is the entire Mass silent?

It depends. Low Masses are usually extremely quiet, but High Masses—if done correctly—contain almost no silence, in spite of a common myth repeated by people who lack familiarity with the traditional liturgy.


(7) Aren’t the Latin Mass people weird and grumpy?

Those of us who started attending the Traditional Mass in the 1990s did come across some strange people who seemed perpetually angry—but that was twenty years ago!  Most of that has faded away.

The people I meet at traditional communities are friendly, smart, brave, honest, and holy. The reputation of “grumpy traddies” is a myth, stemming from so-called “ultra-traditionalist” websites run by angry individuals who don’t accurately represent the traditionalist movement. The worst examples are by cowards who publish under false names, usually to conceal their credentials.

The reason the “good guys” don’t have an equal online presence is simple: they’re too busy saving souls to spend all day typing on the computer. For example, the FSSP priests are not allowed to be on Facebook.


(8) Will people stare at me and judge me?

The only reason people would stare is if you’re dressed immodestly. Those who attend the Traditional Mass tend to leave one another in peace during Mass. They are not “in your face”—because everyone is too busy adoring the Lord.

Have you ever been the victim of a phone assault? I refer to organizations who force you to listen to an automated voice repeating the same information over and over. In my opinion, such assaults are beyond offensive and should be illegal. The Latin Mass is the opposite, because all participate at their own pace. Some read every single proper, even the priest’s private prayers. Others pray the Rosary, as Pope Leo XIII mandated. Indeed, Pope Pius XII said (cf. §108) those participating at Mass “can adopt some other method which proves easier for certain people; for instance, they can lovingly meditate on the mysteries of Jesus Christ or perform other exercises of piety or recite prayers which, though they differ from the sacred rites, are still essentially in harmony with them.”


(9) Isn’t this all about recreating some former time period?

No, the Traditional Latin Mass is not about museum pieces. At the same time we must be wary of discarding anything that’s ancient, because then we’d have to throw out the Bible!

Some things can never go out of style: truth, holiness, philosophy, beauty, love, and so forth. Moreover, the rites, prayers, and songs of the Extraordinary Form go back verbatim to the 5th century—or even further back than that (but this is hard to know, because we have very little documentation). We should be careful before we eliminate traditions so ancient.

So, what are you waiting for? I hope to see you Sunday evening in West Hollywood!

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To learn more about our brand new Latin Mass Apostolate in Los Angeles, you can start by perusing the bulletin archive.



ADDENDUM FOR THIS ARTICLE:

Many changes made in 1970 were not in accordance with what the Council actually wanted. Indeed, the two things most associated with Vatican II—Mass “facing the people” and elimination of Latin—were done in opposition to what the Council mandated.

Consider the musical situation. The ancient propers in the Ordinary Form are taken from the same book as the Traditional Latin Mass. (To see this, download the Vatican II “Ordo Cantus Missae.”) But a loophole was added in 1970 which says hymns can substitute for the official texts. The substitute hymns are supposed to be approved by the local bishop, but a USCCB committee made matters worse by saying certain parts of the GIRM can be ignored. The result is that 95% of parishes replace all the propers, without even realizing what’s happening. I know several music directors who literally “roll the dice” each Sunday to choose four hymns—and who can blame them?—because constantly replacing the official texts becomes tedious.

Secular styles were also introduced during the 1970s, and I believe this was the primary reason for the improbable triumph of the Latin Mass. These days, it has become fashionable to pretend all styles of music are appropriate for Mass: jazz, rock, polka, and so forth. But even a small child realizes that the inherent qualities of some musical styles (for example, the “Addams Family Theme Song”) are not sacred.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

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About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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    “Offertory” at Catholic Funerals
    I have argued that the OFFERTORY—at least in its ancient form—is more of a responsory than an antiphon. The 1962 Missal specifically calls it “Antiphona ad Offertorium.” From now on, I plan to use this beautiful setting (PDF) at funerals, since it cleverly inserts themes from the absolution of the body. Tons more research needs to be done on the OFFERTORY, which often is a ‘patchwork’ stitching together various beginnings and endings of biblical verses. For instance, if you examine the ancient verses for Dómine, vivífica me (30th Sunday in Ordinary Time) you’ll discover this being done in a most perplexing way. Rebecca Maloy published a very expensive book on the OFFERTORY, but it was a disappointment. Indeed, I can’t think of a single valuable insight contained in her book. What a missed opportunity!
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “In Paradisum” • Gregorian Chant
    As a RECESSIONAL on All Souls’ Day (November 2nd), we will sing In Paradísum Dedúcant Te Ángeli (PDF). When it comes to Gregorian Chant, this is one of the most popular “songs.” Frankly, all the prayers and chants from the traditional REQUIEM MASS (Missa exsequialis or Missa pro defunctis) are incredibly powerful and never should’ve been scuttled. Click here to hear “In Paradisum” in a recording I made this afternoon. Professor Louis Bouyer spoke of the way Bugnini “scuttled the office of the dead” in this fascinating excerpt from his memoirs. In his book, La riforma litugica (1983), Bugnini bragged—in quite a shameful way—about eliminating the ancient funeral texts, and even admitted those venerable texts were “beloved” (his word) by Catholics.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Music List” • All Souls (2 November)
    Readers have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I’ve prepared for 2 November 2025, which is the Commemoration of All the Faithful Departed (“All Souls”). If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are conveniently stored at the top-notch feasts website alongside the official texts in Latin. In my humble opinion, it’s weird to have the feast of All Saints on a Sunday. No wonder the close associate of Pope Saint Paul VI said the revised KALENDAR was “the handiwork of a trio of maniacs.” However, I can’t deny that sometimes the sacred liturgy consists of elements that are seemingly contradictory: e.g. the Mode 7 “De Profúndis” ALLELUIA, or the Mode 8 “Dulce lignum” ALLELUIA on the various ancient feasts of the Holy Cross (3 May, 14 September, and so on).
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    Gospel Options for 2 November (“All Souls”)
    We’ve been told some bishops are suppressing the TLM because of “unity.” But is unity truly found in the MISSALE RECENS? For instance, on All Souls (2 November), any of these Gospel readings may be chosen, for any reason (or for no reason at all). The same is true of the Propria Missæ and other readings—there are countless options in the ORDINARY FORM. In other words, no matter which OF parish you attend on 2 November, you’ll almost certainly hear different propers and readings, to say nothing of different ‘styles’ of music. Where is the “unity” in all this? Indeed, the Second Vatican Council solemnly declared: “Even in the liturgy, the Church has no wish to impose a rigid uniformity in matters which do not implicate the faith or the good of the whole community.”
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    “Our Father” • Musical Setting?
    Looking through a Roman Catholic Hymnal published in 1859 by Father Guido Maria Dreves (d. 1909), I stumbled upon this very beautiful tune (PDF file). I feel it would be absolutely perfect to set the “Our Father” in German to music. Thoughts?
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    New Bulletin Article • “12 October 2025”
    My pastor requested that I write short articles each week for our parish bulletin. Those responsible for preparing similar write-ups may find a bit of inspiration in these brief columns. The latest article (dated 12 October 2025) talks about an ‘irony’ or ‘paradox’ regarding the 1960s switch to a wider use (amplior locus) of vernacular in the liturgy.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Random Quote

“The Pope is not an absolute monarch whose thoughts and desires are law. On the contrary: the Pope’s ministry is a guarantee of obedience to Christ and to his Word. He must not proclaim his own ideas, but rather constantly bind himself and the Church to obedience to God’s Word, in the face of every attempt to adapt it or water it down, and every form of opportunism.”

— ‘His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI (11 May 2005)’

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